Asked by Mac Sampson
on 21 Sep 2012

I am trying to solve an equation involving a common logorithm within a loop. I first solve an equation to get r(i). then I take that r(i) value and plug it into an equation to solve for b(i).The second equation is:

b(i)=solve('r(i)=.5*Log10(b(i)) + .5*b(i)')

It is having a lot of trouble solving this. This is the error message:

Warning: Could not find an exact (case-sensitive) match for 'Log10'. /Applications/MATLAB_R2009aSV.app/toolbox/matlab/elfun/log10.m is a case-insensitive match and will be used instead. You can improve the performance of your code by using exact name matches and we therefore recommend that you update your usage accordingly. Alternatively, you can disable this warning using warning('off','MATLAB:dispatcher:InexactCaseMatch'). This warning will become an error in future releases. > In testloopwithgraph at 6 ??? Error using ==> mupadengine.mupadengine>mupadengine.feval at 162 Error: no indeterminate(s) [numeric::solve]

Error in ==> solve>mupadSolve at 232 list = feval(symengine,'mlfsolve',eqns,vars);

Error in ==> solve at 93 [R,symvars,order] = mupadSolve(eqns,vars);

Error in ==> testloopwithgraph at 7 b(i)=solve('r(i)=.5*Log10(b(i)) + .5*b(i)');

I can numericaly solve this equation in mathematica with just a warning about how the output might not cover all values, but it does give me values. In my matlab code it won't give me values at all. Is there a way around this?

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Answer by Azzi Abdelmalek
on 21 Sep 2012

Edited by Azzi Abdelmalek
on 21 Sep 2012

use

log10

not

Log10

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Mac Sampson
on 21 Sep 2012

could you explain this a bit more?

syms B [...] r(i) = [...] b(i) = solve(r(i) = 1/2*log10(B)+1/2*B, B);

Azzi Abdelmalek
on 21 Sep 2012

do you want to use symbolic toolbox. In your case, implicit solution could'nt be found, unless you use just

syms b

%with r known

syms b

sol=solve(-r(1)+0.5*log10(b)+0.5*b,b)

Mac Sampson
on 21 Sep 2012

so this code would go within the loop and without noting r and b as r(i) and b(i)?

Answer by Matt Tearle
on 21 Sep 2012

If I understand your intent correctly, you're trying to solve the equation

r_i = (Log10(b) + b)/2

for b, given a (numeric?) value of r_i. Then you want to store that b value as b_i. (Repeat for i+1)

If so, then (1) you don't need to do this symbolically and (2) you are getting the error because `solve` can't figure out what the variable is.

I'd suggest using `fzero`:

for i = 2:n % get r(i) % solve for b(i) using b(i-1) as an initial guess b(i) = fzero(@(b) (log10(b) + b)/2 - r(i),b(i-1)); end

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Matt Tearle
on 21 Sep 2012

Yes, assuming you want to use the previous value for b as your initial guess. What errors do you get? It's entirely possible that `fzero` is failing to find the root.

Mac Sampson
on 21 Sep 2012

i don't want to use previous values of b. the first equation gives me a value for r(i). I then want to plug in r(i) into the next equation to solve for b. this gives me one value for r(i) at that iteration and one value for b(i) at that iteration. I then want it to return to the beginning of the loop and do it all over again with i+1, giving me two new values for r(i+1) and b(i+10

Matt Tearle
on 21 Sep 2012

Yes, I understand that, but `fzero` is a numerical solver, so it requires an initial guess for the solution. When doing stuff like this in a loop, it's not uncommon to use the previous solution as the starting point for the next solution. If r(i) varies somewhat slowly and smoothly with i, that would make sense. But it looks like maybe that's not the case here.

So, see my new answer...

Answer by Matt Tearle
on 21 Sep 2012

Edited by Matt Tearle
on 21 Sep 2012

Didn't see your comment with your code. This works:

imax = (n/2)-2; r = zeros(imax,1); syms b

for i = 2:imax; r(i)=.5*log10((2*p)^((1 - 2*(i - 2))/(n - 4))*(t/2)^((2*(i - 2))/(n - 4)))+(i - 2)*(((n - 4)*p-2*p-.5*t)/(n - 4)); bsolve(i)=solve((log10(b) + b)/2 == r(i),b); end

bnum = double(bsolve);

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Walter Roberson
on 22 Sep 2012

I'm not sure what you mean about inverting the function? Do you mean that given a particular b value, you want to find the r value ?

Mac Sampson
on 22 Sep 2012

no. r(i)=0.5*log10(b)+0.5*b is the equation i am using. I know r(i) from the previous equation in the loop. I want to solve for b. When I try to invert the function and get b(i) in terms of r(i), it spits out the wrong values.

Walter Roberson
on 22 Sep 2012

b(i) in terms of r(i) is the formula I show above, involving LambertW .

I tested in Maple and the results appear to be correct. However, in cases where r(i) is complex, there can be multiple solutions.

Answer by Mac Sampson
on 22 Sep 2012

Thanks so much to all of you. I believe with your help I have found what is wrong and will embark on tracking down and fixing the problem. Thanks again for all your help!

Walter Roberson
on 22 Sep 2012

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## 4 Comments

## Azzi Abdelmalek (view profile)

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what is b(i)?

## Mac Sampson (view profile)

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b(i) is the new variable i want to solve for. here is the complete loop:

## Azzi Abdelmalek (view profile)

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## Mac Sampson (view profile)

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thanks for catching that. that was a typo