MATLAB Central Newsreader - TMW: it is time to get more aggressive with spammers; it is time for spam crusaders!

Re: TMW: it is time to get more aggressive with spammers; it is time

dpb — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:17:14 -0400

Peter Boettcher wrote:
> "us " <us@neurol.unizh.ch> writes:
>
>> like most CSSM visitors of TMW’s web engine, i am very
frustrated, not only with the again revived onslaught of spam by
extremely spiteful individuals - who seem to have a valid TMW account,
to boot - but even more so with the still toothless instrument of the
new news engine to fight it
...

>> in my view, it’s time to DO something - not just talk endlessly!
>
> I'll add one more thing: For those of us who do not use the MATLAB
> Central news reader thingy, maybe it's time that TMW gave back
> something to the USENET community besides spam. How about actually
> issuing cancels to USENET. Since the spam comes from TMW host
> already, TMW can add a "cancel lock" header, which would allow them to
> send messages which cancel (remove) those posts from other servers
> around the world.
>
> It's time!
>
> Or I could just start blocking all posts from TMW. That would make
> things nice and peaceful around here.
>
> -Peter

I'll second that.

(And long lines haven't yet been fixed, either, it appears. US's post
first sentence shows it...)

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Re: TMW: it is time to get more aggressive with spammers; it is time for spam crusaders!

Peter Boettcher — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:46:34 -0400

"us " <us@neurol.unizh.ch> writes:

> like most CSSM visitors of TMW’s web engine, i am very frustrated, not only with the again revived onslaught of spam by extremely spiteful individuals - who seem to have a valid TMW account, to boot - but even more so with the still toothless instrument of the new news engine to fight it
>
> why continue to tip-toe around those malignant critters?!
>
> i strongly suggest that something along this line be implemented quickly(!)
>
> - we all know that there are many friendly, good natured, and seasoned CSSM/FEX citizens who’ve been around regularly for a long time with a well known reputation for real, down-to-earth contributions…
> - we all trust their judgment…
> - we all know who they are, no need to list them here…
> - we all agree 100% on what constitutes spam, undoubtedly, without having to ponder for days or write a philosophical dissertation on the matter…
> - these CSSMers - if they agree to participate and become such crusaders - should have the power (eg, by means of a flag set in their TMW account) to REMOVE such spam IMMEDIATELY…
>
> - this could simply be done by an additional, user-friendly clicky option on the <view thread> page, eg, REMOVE THIS POST/SPAM, which would be effective instantly…
> - TMW accounts of spammers should be blocked
> - for the sake of transparency:
> removed posts should be moved into an archive visible to all visitors
> the list of spam crusaders should be visible to everyone
> ….blocked accounts should be visible to all
>
> in my view, it’s time to DO something - not just talk endlessly!

I'll add one more thing: For those of us who do not use the MATLAB
Central news reader thingy, maybe it's time that TMW gave back
something to the USENET community besides spam. How about actually
issuing cancels to USENET. Since the spam comes from TMW host
already, TMW can add a "cancel lock" header, which would allow them to
send messages which cancel (remove) those posts from other servers
around the world.

It's time!

Or I could just start blocking all posts from TMW. That would make
things nice and peaceful around here.

-Peter

TMW: it is time to get more aggressive with spammers; it is time for spam crusaders!

us — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:48:46 -0400

like most CSSM visitors of TMW’s web engine, i am very frustrated, not only with the again revived onslaught of spam by extremely spiteful individuals - who seem to have a valid TMW account, to boot - but even more so with the still toothless instrument of the new news engine to fight it

why continue to tip-toe around those malignant critters?!

i strongly suggest that something along this line be implemented quickly(!)

- we all know that there are many friendly, good natured, and seasoned CSSM/FEX citizens who’ve been around regularly for a long time with a well known reputation for real, down-to-earth contributions…
- we all trust their judgment…
- we all know who they are, no need to list them here…
- we all agree 100% on what constitutes spam, undoubtedly, without having to ponder for days or write a philosophical dissertation on the matter…
- these CSSMers - if they agree to participate and become such crusaders - should have the power (eg, by means of a flag set in their TMW account) to REMOVE such spam IMMEDIATELY…

- this could simply be done by an additional, user-friendly clicky option on the <view thread> page, eg, REMOVE THIS POST/SPAM, which would be effective instantly…
- TMW accounts of spammers should be blocked
- for the sake of transparency:
removed posts should be moved into an archive visible to all visitors
the list of spam crusaders should be visible to everyone
….blocked accounts should be visible to all

in my view, it’s time to DO something - not just talk endlessly!

us

Re: TMW: it is time to get more aggressive with spammers; it is time for spam crusaders!

Dave Robinson — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:20:54 -0400

<SNIP>
> i strongly suggest that something along this line be implemented quickly(!)
>
> - we all know that there are many friendly, good natured, and seasoned CSSM/FEX citizens who’ve been around regularly for a long time with a well known reputation for real, down-to-earth contributions…
> - we all trust their judgment…
> - we all know who they are, no need to list them here…
> - we all agree 100% on what constitutes spam, undoubtedly, without having to ponder for days or write a philosophical dissertation on the matter…
> - these CSSMers - if they agree to participate and become such crusaders - should have the power (eg, by means of a flag set in their TMW account) to REMOVE such spam IMMEDIATELY…
> us

Well you have my vote for one.

Dave Robinson