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      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 01:35:11 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>volume of a pyramid</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/159747#402669</link>
      <author>Pinpress </author>
      <description>Hi,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Anyone knows how to calculate the volume of a 3D ultrasound&lt;br&gt;
imaging volume, like the one in the following figure:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.gehealthcare.com/usen/ultrasound/education/images/u3d4d/fig2.jpg"&gt;http://www.gehealthcare.com/usen/ultrasound/education/images/u3d4d/fig2.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Or any pointer to useful links would be much appreciated. &lt;br&gt;
thanks and happy Thanksgiving!&lt;br&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:52:51 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: volume of a pyramid</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/159747#402673</link>
      <author>Roger Stafford</author>
      <description>"Pinpress " &amp;lt;nospam__@yahoo.com&amp;gt; wrote in message &amp;lt;fi5aof$gp&lt;br&gt;
$1@fred.mathworks.com&amp;gt;...&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Hi,&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Anyone knows how to calculate the volume of a 3D ultrasound&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; imaging volume, like the one in the following figure:&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;a href="http://www.gehealthcare.com/usen/ultrasound/education/images/u3d4d/"&gt;http://www.gehealthcare.com/usen/ultrasound/education/images/u3d4d/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
fig2.jpg&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Or any pointer to useful links would be much appreciated. &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; thanks and happy Thanksgiving!&lt;br&gt;
--------&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;You haven't stated explicitly what shape your image has.  It looks like a solid &lt;br&gt;
defined by projecting a spherical quadrilateral surface inwards along radial &lt;br&gt;
lines to a smaller spherical quadrilateral.  Is that correct?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If so, then its volume can be calculated in terms of the area of the outer &lt;br&gt;
quadrilateral:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;V = a*R/3*(1 &amp;#8211; (r/R)^3)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Where R is the outer radius, r the inner radius, and a the outer area.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;As for computing a, it is equal to&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;a = R^2*(A + B + C + D &amp;#8211; 2*pi)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
where A, B, C, and D are the four angles in radians at the four vertices of the &lt;br&gt;
outer quadrilateral.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;So your problem becomes that of determined what those four angles are.  &lt;br&gt;
There is no way of determining them without additional information about &lt;br&gt;
that quadrilateral.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Roger Stafford&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:05:56 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: volume of a pyramid</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/159747#402674</link>
      <author>Pinpress </author>
      <description>First, thanks for the reply.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
As for the volume, it is a solid that both radial surfaces&lt;br&gt;
have identical radius toward a common origin.  All other 4&lt;br&gt;
surfaces are on a straight plane (as opposed to the two&lt;br&gt;
radial surfaces), and their angles with the vertical axis is&lt;br&gt;
known (i.e.g, vector-to-plane angles are known). &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
So are your equations supposed to calculate the solid volume&lt;br&gt;
as describe above.  I will examine the equations too. &lt;br&gt;
Thanks again. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; --------&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   You haven't stated explicitly what shape your image has.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;It looks like a solid &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; defined by projecting a spherical quadrilateral surface&lt;br&gt;
inwards along radial &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; lines to a smaller spherical quadrilateral.  Is that correct?&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   If so, then its volume can be calculated in terms of the&lt;br&gt;
area of the outer &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; quadrilateral:&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;  V = a*R/3*(1 &amp;#8211; (r/R)^3)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Where R is the outer radius, r the inner radius, and a the&lt;br&gt;
outer area.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   As for computing a, it is equal to&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;  a = R^2*(A + B + C + D &amp;#8211; 2*pi)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; where A, B, C, and D are the four angles in radians at the&lt;br&gt;
four vertices of the &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; outer quadrilateral.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   So your problem becomes that of determined what those&lt;br&gt;
four angles are.  &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; There is no way of determining them without additional&lt;br&gt;
information about &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; that quadrilateral.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Roger Stafford&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:06:01 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: volume of a pyramid</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/159747#402675</link>
      <author>Pinpress </author>
      <description>First, thanks for the reply.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
As for the volume, it is a solid that both radial surfaces&lt;br&gt;
have identical radius toward a common origin.  All other 4&lt;br&gt;
surfaces are on a straight plane (as opposed to the two&lt;br&gt;
radial surfaces), and their angles with the vertical axis is&lt;br&gt;
known (i.e.g, vector-to-plane angles are known). &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
So are your equations supposed to calculate the solid volume&lt;br&gt;
as describe above.  I will examine the equations too. &lt;br&gt;
Thanks again. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; --------&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   You haven't stated explicitly what shape your image has.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;It looks like a solid &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; defined by projecting a spherical quadrilateral surface&lt;br&gt;
inwards along radial &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; lines to a smaller spherical quadrilateral.  Is that correct?&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   If so, then its volume can be calculated in terms of the&lt;br&gt;
area of the outer &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; quadrilateral:&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;  V = a*R/3*(1 &amp;#8211; (r/R)^3)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Where R is the outer radius, r the inner radius, and a the&lt;br&gt;
outer area.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   As for computing a, it is equal to&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;  a = R^2*(A + B + C + D &amp;#8211; 2*pi)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; where A, B, C, and D are the four angles in radians at the&lt;br&gt;
four vertices of the &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; outer quadrilateral.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   So your problem becomes that of determined what those&lt;br&gt;
four angles are.  &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; There is no way of determining them without additional&lt;br&gt;
information about &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; that quadrilateral.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Roger Stafford&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:06:13 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: volume of a pyramid</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/159747#402679</link>
      <author>Pinpress </author>
      <description>First, thanks for the reply.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
As for the volume, it is a solid that both radial surfaces&lt;br&gt;
have identical radius toward a common origin.  All other 4&lt;br&gt;
surfaces are on a straight plane (as opposed to the two&lt;br&gt;
radial surfaces), and their angles with the vertical axis is&lt;br&gt;
known (i.e.g, vector-to-plane angles are known). &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
So are your equations supposed to calculate the solid volume&lt;br&gt;
as describe above.  I will examine the equations too. &lt;br&gt;
Thanks again. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; --------&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   You haven't stated explicitly what shape your image has.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;It looks like a solid &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; defined by projecting a spherical quadrilateral surface&lt;br&gt;
inwards along radial &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; lines to a smaller spherical quadrilateral.  Is that correct?&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   If so, then its volume can be calculated in terms of the&lt;br&gt;
area of the outer &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; quadrilateral:&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;  V = a*R/3*(1 &amp;#8211; (r/R)^3)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Where R is the outer radius, r the inner radius, and a the&lt;br&gt;
outer area.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   As for computing a, it is equal to&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;  a = R^2*(A + B + C + D &amp;#8211; 2*pi)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; where A, B, C, and D are the four angles in radians at the&lt;br&gt;
four vertices of the &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; outer quadrilateral.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   So your problem becomes that of determined what those&lt;br&gt;
four angles are.  &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; There is no way of determining them without additional&lt;br&gt;
information about &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; that quadrilateral.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Roger Stafford&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:06:13 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: volume of a pyramid</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/159747#402680</link>
      <author>Pinpress </author>
      <description>First, thanks for the reply.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
As for the volume, it is a solid that both radial surfaces&lt;br&gt;
have identical radius toward a common origin.  All other 4&lt;br&gt;
surfaces are on a straight plane (as opposed to the two&lt;br&gt;
radial surfaces), and their angles with the vertical axis is&lt;br&gt;
known (i.e.g, vector-to-plane angles are known). &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
So are your equations supposed to calculate the solid volume&lt;br&gt;
as describe above.  I will examine the equations too. &lt;br&gt;
Thanks again. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; --------&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   You haven't stated explicitly what shape your image has.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;It looks like a solid &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; defined by projecting a spherical quadrilateral surface&lt;br&gt;
inwards along radial &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; lines to a smaller spherical quadrilateral.  Is that correct?&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   If so, then its volume can be calculated in terms of the&lt;br&gt;
area of the outer &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; quadrilateral:&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;  V = a*R/3*(1 &amp;#8211; (r/R)^3)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Where R is the outer radius, r the inner radius, and a the&lt;br&gt;
outer area.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   As for computing a, it is equal to&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;  a = R^2*(A + B + C + D &amp;#8211; 2*pi)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; where A, B, C, and D are the four angles in radians at the&lt;br&gt;
four vertices of the &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; outer quadrilateral.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   So your problem becomes that of determined what those&lt;br&gt;
four angles are.  &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; There is no way of determining them without additional&lt;br&gt;
information about &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; that quadrilateral.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Roger Stafford&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:06:14 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: volume of a pyramid</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/159747#402681</link>
      <author>Pinpress </author>
      <description>First, thanks for the reply.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
As for the volume, it is a solid that both radial surfaces&lt;br&gt;
have identical radius toward a common origin.  All other 4&lt;br&gt;
surfaces are on a straight plane (as opposed to the two&lt;br&gt;
radial surfaces), and their angles with the vertical axis is&lt;br&gt;
known (i.e.g, vector-to-plane angles are known). &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
So are your equations supposed to calculate the solid volume&lt;br&gt;
as describe above.  I will examine the equations too. &lt;br&gt;
Thanks again. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; --------&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   You haven't stated explicitly what shape your image has.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;It looks like a solid &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; defined by projecting a spherical quadrilateral surface&lt;br&gt;
inwards along radial &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; lines to a smaller spherical quadrilateral.  Is that correct?&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   If so, then its volume can be calculated in terms of the&lt;br&gt;
area of the outer &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; quadrilateral:&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;  V = a*R/3*(1 &amp;#8211; (r/R)^3)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Where R is the outer radius, r the inner radius, and a the&lt;br&gt;
outer area.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   As for computing a, it is equal to&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;  a = R^2*(A + B + C + D &amp;#8211; 2*pi)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; where A, B, C, and D are the four angles in radians at the&lt;br&gt;
four vertices of the &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; outer quadrilateral.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   So your problem becomes that of determined what those&lt;br&gt;
four angles are.  &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; There is no way of determining them without additional&lt;br&gt;
information about &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; that quadrilateral.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Roger Stafford&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:08:14 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: volume of a pyramid</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/159747#402683</link>
      <author>Pinpress </author>
      <description>First, thanks for the reply.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
As for the volume, it is a solid that both radial surfaces&lt;br&gt;
have identical radius toward a common origin.  All other 4&lt;br&gt;
surfaces are on a straight plane (as opposed to the two&lt;br&gt;
radial surfaces), and their angles with the vertical axis is&lt;br&gt;
known (i.e.g, vector-to-plane angles are known). &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
So are your equations supposed to calculate the solid volume&lt;br&gt;
as describe above.  I will examine the equations too. &lt;br&gt;
Thanks again. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; --------&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   You haven't stated explicitly what shape your image has.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;It looks like a solid &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; defined by projecting a spherical quadrilateral surface&lt;br&gt;
inwards along radial &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; lines to a smaller spherical quadrilateral.  Is that correct?&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   If so, then its volume can be calculated in terms of the&lt;br&gt;
area of the outer &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; quadrilateral:&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;  V = a*R/3*(1 &amp;#8211; (r/R)^3)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Where R is the outer radius, r the inner radius, and a the&lt;br&gt;
outer area.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   As for computing a, it is equal to&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;  a = R^2*(A + B + C + D &amp;#8211; 2*pi)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; where A, B, C, and D are the four angles in radians at the&lt;br&gt;
four vertices of the &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; outer quadrilateral.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;   So your problem becomes that of determined what those&lt;br&gt;
four angles are.  &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; There is no way of determining them without additional&lt;br&gt;
information about &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; that quadrilateral.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Roger Stafford&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:13:44 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: volume of a pyramid</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/159747#402684</link>
      <author>Pinpress </author>
      <description>Didn't mean to send so many identical reply -- looks like&lt;br&gt;
mathworks server problem. &lt;br&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:47:31 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: volume of a pyramid</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/159747#402688</link>
      <author>Roger Stafford</author>
      <description>"Pinpress " &amp;lt;nospam__@yahoo.com&amp;gt; wrote in message &amp;lt;fi5g2k$37v&lt;br&gt;
$1@fred.mathworks.com&amp;gt;...&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; First, thanks for the reply.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; As for the volume, it is a solid that both radial surfaces&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; have identical radius toward a common origin.  All other 4&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; surfaces are on a straight plane (as opposed to the two&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; radial surfaces), and their angles with the vertical axis is&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; known (i.e.g, vector-to-plane angles are known). &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; So are your equations supposed to calculate the solid volume&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; as describe above.  I will examine the equations too. &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Thanks again. &lt;br&gt;
-------&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I'm not sure what is meant by the "vertical axis" here, but it doesn't sound as &lt;br&gt;
though that would be enough information to uniquely determine the spherical &lt;br&gt;
surface area.  You need some information about the spread of the four linear &lt;br&gt;
edges from one another, and that is different from knowing what angle they &lt;br&gt;
make with some vertical direction.  In other words what are the relative &lt;br&gt;
lengths of the four circular arcs which bound the spherical quadrilaterals?  &lt;br&gt;
Are they all equal?  Are opposite pairs equal?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The four angles, A, B, C, and D I mentioned are equal to the four dihedral &lt;br&gt;
angles between the four pairs of planar surfaces.  For example, if these were &lt;br&gt;
all equal to pi radians, the four planes would then all be part of the same &lt;br&gt;
plane and would cut the sphere precisely in half, which is consistent with the &lt;br&gt;
given formulas.  On the other hand, if they were all equal to pi/2, that would &lt;br&gt;
be an area and volume of zero.  The difference A+B+C+D-2*pi can be &lt;br&gt;
considered as the "spherical excess" over the normal value of zero for a &lt;br&gt;
planar quadrilateral.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;(By the way, there seems to be a multiplicity of copies of this last article of &lt;br&gt;
yours, Pinpress.  Something may have gone wrong in sending it.)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Roger Stafford&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
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