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      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:08:02 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: Matlab Cost: US vs Europe</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/163601#414497</link>
      <author>Ian Clarkson</author>
      <description>&quot;Murphy O'Brien&quot; &amp;lt;murphyobrien@gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote in message &lt;br&gt;
&amp;lt;fos6uu$3sj$1@fred.mathworks.com&amp;gt;...&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; We need another matlab + signal processing licence. It is &lt;br&gt;
a &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; lot cheaper in the US, $2700 in the US vs $4000 + Tax in &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Ireland. &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; I'll be in the US in the next few weeks. Does anyone know &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; if there is anything unethical or illegal in me dropping &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; into a store and buying a copy over in the USA to use &lt;br&gt;
over &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; here in Ireland?&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Murphy O'Brien&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
doubt it, although the massive price difference is a bit &lt;br&gt;
baffling... go for it!</description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:11:02 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: Matlab Cost: US vs Europe</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/163601#414523</link>
      <author>Ethan </author>
      <description>From the license agreement:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Prices are per unit, listed in U.S. dollars, valid for program&lt;br&gt;
installation and use in the U.S. or Canada only, and are&lt;br&gt;
subject to change without notice.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I don't know why the price is so much more in Europe. The discrepancy is big &lt;br&gt;
enough that it probably turns away customers. In addition, if your company is &lt;br&gt;
transatlantic, the Europeans will ask the Americans to use something else &lt;br&gt;
since they will not be able to share the code.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&quot;Murphy O'Brien&quot; &amp;lt;murphyobrien@gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote in message &lt;br&gt;
&amp;lt;fos6uu$3sj$1@fred.mathworks.com&amp;gt;...&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; We need another matlab + signal processing licence. It is a &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; lot cheaper in the US, $2700 in the US vs $4000 + Tax in &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Ireland. &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; I'll be in the US in the next few weeks. Does anyone know &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; if there is anything unethical or illegal in me dropping &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; into a store and buying a copy over in the USA to use over &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; here in Ireland?&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Murphy O'Brien&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; </description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:26:53 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: Matlab Cost: US vs Europe</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/163601#414530</link>
      <author>roberson@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca (Walter Roberson)</author>
      <description>In article &amp;lt;fos6uu$3sj$1@fred.mathworks.com&amp;gt;,&lt;br&gt;
Murphy O'Brien &amp;lt;murphyobrien@gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;I'll be in the US in the next few weeks. Does anyone know &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;if there is anything unethical or illegal in me dropping &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;into a store and buying a copy over in the USA to use over &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;here in Ireland?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I believe that Matlab is not sold in stores (except for&lt;br&gt;
campus bookstores selling student versions, and requiring&lt;br&gt;
student ID for the purchase.)&lt;br&gt;
-- &lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&quot;Ignorance has been our king... he sits unchallenged on the throne of&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Man. His dynasty is age-old. His right to rule is now considered&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;legitimate. Past sages have affirmed it. They did nothing to unseat&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;him.&quot;                                       -- Walter M Miller, Jr</description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:52:02 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: Matlab Cost: US vs Europe</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/163601#414564</link>
      <author>Murphy O'Brien</author>
      <description>&quot;Ethan &quot; &amp;lt;emontag.nospam@leuzeusa.com&amp;gt; wrote in message &lt;br&gt;
&amp;lt;fosgel$fvu$1@fred.mathworks.com&amp;gt;...&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; From the license agreement:&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Prices are per unit, listed in U.S. dollars, valid for &lt;br&gt;
program&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; installation and use in the U.S. or Canada only, and are&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; subject to change without notice.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; I don't know why the price is so much more in Europe. The &lt;br&gt;
discrepancy is big &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; enough that it probably turns away customers. In &lt;br&gt;
addition, if your company is &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; transatlantic, the Europeans will ask the Americans to &lt;br&gt;
use something else &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; since they will not be able to share the code.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &quot;Murphy O'Brien&quot; &amp;lt;murphyobrien@gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote in &lt;br&gt;
message &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;lt;fos6uu$3sj$1@fred.mathworks.com&amp;gt;...&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; We need another matlab + signal processing licence. It &lt;br&gt;
is a &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; lot cheaper in the US, $2700 in the US vs $4000 + Tax &lt;br&gt;
in &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Ireland. &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I'll be in the US in the next few weeks. Does anyone &lt;br&gt;
know &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; if there is anything unethical or illegal in me &lt;br&gt;
dropping &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; into a store and buying a copy over in the USA to use &lt;br&gt;
over &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; here in Ireland?&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Murphy O'Brien&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
So does that mean that when I go on a trip to the US, I am &lt;br&gt;
not legally allowed to use Matlab on my laptop? That seems &lt;br&gt;
bizarre!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Murphy</description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:25:55 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: Matlab Cost: US vs Europe</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/163601#414588</link>
      <author>fburton@nyx.net (Francis Burton)</author>
      <description>In article &amp;lt;fosgel$fvu$1@fred.mathworks.com&amp;gt;,&lt;br&gt;
Ethan  &amp;lt;emontag.nospam@leuzeusa.com&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;Prices are per unit, listed in U.S. dollars, valid for program&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;installation and use in the U.S. or Canada only, and are&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;subject to change without notice.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Possibly done, like DVD region coding, for sound commercial&lt;br&gt;
(if not customer-friendly) reasons? What sayeth The MathWorks?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Francis</description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:45:03 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: Matlab Cost: US vs Europe</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/163601#414654</link>
      <author>Derek O'Connor</author>
      <description>&quot;Murphy O'Brien&quot; &amp;lt;murphyobrien@gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote in message&lt;br&gt;
&amp;lt;fos6uu$3sj$1@fred.mathworks.com&amp;gt;...&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; We need another matlab + signal processing licence. It is a &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; lot cheaper in the US, $2700 in the US vs $4000 + Tax in &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Ireland. &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; I'll be in the US in the next few weeks. Does anyone know &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; if there is anything unethical or illegal in me dropping &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; into a store and buying a copy over in the USA to use over &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; here in Ireland?&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Murphy O'Brien&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I would like to make a general point : consumers in Ireland&lt;br&gt;
have always been &quot;screwed&quot;, either by producers, or&lt;br&gt;
government, or both.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
In the last 10 or 15 years it has got a bit better for&lt;br&gt;
consumers, but not much.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Just one recent example : A friend of mine from Seattle just&lt;br&gt;
brought me a &quot;gift&quot; of a Nikon Coolpix P5000. It cost him&lt;br&gt;
$340 = 233 euros. The best price I could find in Ireland was&lt;br&gt;
in the Argos catalogue : 500 euros.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Enough said.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Derek O'Connor</description>
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