MATLAB Central Newsreader - Moderated

Re: Moderated

John D'Errico — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:05:03 -0400

rych <rychphd@gmail.com> wrote in message <3d106703-cb46-4a09-
bcb6-762b8c6da614@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>...
> Thanks everyone for explanations and good advice. I think I'm going to
> try a newsreader with sorting/filtering.
>
> matt dash
> "All of you" who are so very active, so "massive", who can't wait for
> a peer review, but require every word to be published straight away,
> still well-thought-out? That's great. I just hope you don't actually
> compete by the sheer number of posts.

A newsreader can work very well. I like the one I use, although
the Matlab Central interface has advantages too, with its use of
tags. I use them both.

If I respond to a dozen or so questions in a day, waiting for
them to be accepted by a moderator would be far too slow.
In some threads I need to wait until some point is clarified,
so I need several rounds of responses. This would take
forever if a moderator had to intercede.

Yes, there are forums where no intercessions are made until
a flame war starts. These are lightly moderated forums, where
a thread can be shut down by a moderator/super user. But
that cannot be done on a usenet group. And the group
comp.soft-sys.matlab is fundamentally a usenet group, as
it has been for 20 years.

John

Re: Moderated

rych — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:54:04 -0400

Thanks everyone for explanations and good advice. I think I'm going to
try a newsreader with sorting/filtering.

matt dash
"All of you" who are so very active, so "massive", who can't wait for
a peer review, but require every word to be published straight away,
still well-thought-out? That's great. I just hope you don't actually
compete by the sheer number of posts.

Re: Moderated

matt dash — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:37:01 -0400

You do realize that would be a massive inconvenience to all
of us who are very active and don't want to wait for someone
to approve posts before they show up. It sounds like you
should just read the newsgroup through the website... what's
the point of signing up for an email of it if you only have
4 posts?

Re: Moderated

dpb — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:31:17 -0400

rych wrote:
> Perhaps the way I read this newsgroup is not right, I don't know. I'm
> subscribed to it via Google groups so that I get 1 email per day, and
> because this list is so active it always exceeds (how far!?) 100
> messages per day, so I get it "abridged". I won't have time to browse
> more that 100 per day anyway. Now, this long email has excerpts 3-4
> lines from each of the new message. As I'm scrolling it, when I see an
> interesting title subtitle, I click. There are always quite a few spam
> messages (trying to sell something). There are also a lot of "please
> help", "urgent", do-my-homework type titles that I'm learning to
> ignore in a split of a second. It's because posts appear immediately!
> This is just not right. Could we employ just one person to read and
> discard some messages? Take a look at the moderated Mathematica group,
> for example, it's much cleaner. I'm not asking to separate students
> from R&D people, but for some elementary filtering out of spam and
> "urgent" posts.

Use either TMW portal (can't say anything about it except I know it
exists as w/ dialup it's not convenient) or a "real" newsreader rather
than google would help. I'm not sure whether g-g has implemented any
user-settable filtering or not--last I looked didn't appear so, but
that's been quite some time ago.

c.s-s.m is an unmoderated usenet group so it has all the warts and
benefits thereof. One can use it and the tools available for usenet or
choose another route I think is the upshot.

I've been using Mozilla Thunderbird and it doesn't take long to catch up
a time or two a day. A couple of filters for some of the repetitive
stuff and easy enough to mark the usual suspects of "urgent", etc., as
"ignore thread" and they'll not show up again even if hey devolve into a
discussion of the ethics of homework assistance.

$0.02, ymmv, imo, etc., etc., ...

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Re: Moderated

rych — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:54:51 -0400

Perhaps the way I read this newsgroup is not right, I don't know. I'm
subscribed to it via Google groups so that I get 1 email per day, and
because this list is so active it always exceeds (how far!?) 100
messages per day, so I get it "abridged". I won't have time to browse
more that 100 per day anyway. Now, this long email has excerpts 3-4
lines from each of the new message. As I'm scrolling it, when I see an
interesting title subtitle, I click. There are always quite a few spam
messages (trying to sell something). There are also a lot of "please
help", "urgent", do-my-homework type titles that I'm learning to
ignore in a split of a second. It's because posts appear immediately!
This is just not right. Could we employ just one person to read and
discard some messages? Take a look at the moderated Mathematica group,
for example, it's much cleaner. I'm not asking to separate students
from R&D people, but for some elementary filtering out of spam and
"urgent" posts.

Re: Moderated

ImageAnalyst — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:51:56 -0400

On Apr 16, 1:20=A0pm, "David " <d...@bigcompany.com> wrote:
> rych <rych...@gmail.com> wrote in message <c045e996-c41f-
>
> 4a76-a0af-354b570c4...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>...
>
> > Is there also a moderated newsgroup on MatLab? If not
> could someone
> > from MathWorks please moderate this one?
>
> is this group not moderated enough for you?? =A0actually you
> may want to go the mathworks.com newsreader as that
> provides more filtering of spam and other nice features.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but it lacks a lot of nice features also, such as the inability to
see the postings as a tree (so you know who replied to whom instead of
just one big long linear list), not properly handling the quoted-
printable usenet standard (so that equal signs sometimes show up as
equal sign3D especially from Google postings), etc. It would be nicer
if they fixed/upgraded those things.
Regards,
ImageAnalyst

Re: Moderated

David — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:20:14 -0400

rych <rychphd@gmail.com> wrote in message <c045e996-c41f-
4a76-a0af-354b570c4f46@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>...
> Is there also a moderated newsgroup on MatLab? If not
could someone
> from MathWorks please moderate this one?

is this group not moderated enough for you?? actually you
may want to go the mathworks.com newsreader as that
provides more filtering of spam and other nice features.

Re: Moderated

Steven Lord — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:19:33 -0400

"rych" <rychphd@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c045e996-c41f-4a76-a0af-354b570c4f46@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> Is there also a moderated newsgroup on MatLab?

Not as far as I know.

> If not could someone from MathWorks please moderate this one?

It's not that simple. Changing the moderation status of a Usenet newsgroup,
like comp.soft-sys.matlab, would require a few steps involving the Big-8
Management Board:

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php

Their General Policies section describes their policy on changing moderation
status.

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:change_mod

Out of curiosity, why do you think CSSM needs or could use moderation?

--
Steve Lord
slord@mathworks.com

Moderated

rych — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:52:06 -0400

Is there also a moderated newsgroup on MatLab? If not could someone
from MathWorks please moderate this one?