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      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:43:02 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Can an empty solution be better than optimal?</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/265039#692259</link>
      <author>Dmitry </author>
      <description>Hello,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
In certain &quot;pathological&quot; problems it might be better not to provide a result, but to return empty matrix. For example:&lt;br&gt;
[1 1;&lt;br&gt;
1 3]&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Solution is obviously [3]. But the score will be 15. Whereas if no solution is provided, score is 12. &lt;br&gt;
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Is this something the program should take care of? &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
- Dmitry</description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:49:01 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: Can an empty solution be better than optimal?</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/265039#692283</link>
      <author>the cyclist</author>
      <description>&quot;Dmitry &quot; &amp;lt;dmitry_vasilyev@yahoo.com&amp;gt; wrote in message &amp;lt;hcte3m$afn$1@fred.mathworks.com&amp;gt;...&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Hello,&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; In certain &quot;pathological&quot; problems it might be better not to provide a result, but to return empty matrix. For example:&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; [1 1;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; 1 3]&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Solution is obviously [3]. But the score will be 15. Whereas if no solution is provided, score is 12. &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Is this something the program should take care of? &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; - Dmitry&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
In certain &quot;pathological&quot; posts, it might be better not to provide an answer, but rather to try to better understand the question.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
What do you mean that the &quot;solution&quot; to&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; [1 1; 1 3]&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
is obviously [3]?  That's just an array.  It has no &quot;solution.&quot;  It is also by no means clear what you mean by &quot;score&quot;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
the cyclist</description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:14:03 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: Can an empty solution be better than optimal?</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/265039#692284</link>
      <author>Darren Rowland</author>
      <description>@ cyclist:  I'm pretty sure that this is regarding the current contest. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
You might like to evaluate a number of different strategies (including the 'do nothing' strategy) and choose the one which gives the lowest score.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The only real limit on how many different strategies you might try is that the program must conclude in under 3 minutes.&lt;br&gt;
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Hth&lt;br&gt;
Darren</description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:01:40 -0500</pubDate>
      <title>Re: Can an empty solution be better than optimal?</title>
      <link>http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/265039#692418</link>
      <author>Steven Lord</author>
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&quot;Darren Rowland&quot; &amp;lt;darrenjremovethisrowland@hotmail.com&amp;gt; wrote in message &lt;br&gt;
news:hctmur$dot$1@fred.mathworks.com...&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;@ cyclist:  I'm pretty sure that this is regarding the current contest.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I'd like to suggest that if you have questions about the contest, please &lt;br&gt;
either post in the main contest thread:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/264764&quot;&gt;http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/264764&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
and/or tag your thread with the 'contest' tag, and/or include the words &lt;br&gt;
'contest' or 'Fall 2009 contest' somewhere in your post, like the subject.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; You might like to evaluate a number of different strategies (including the &lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; 'do nothing' strategy) and choose the one which gives the lowest score.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Dmitry,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The &quot;Other Considerations&quot; heading in the Scoring section of the rules &lt;br&gt;
states that returning the empty set is a legitimate answer.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mathworks.com/contest/flooding/rules.html&quot;&gt;http://www.mathworks.com/contest/flooding/rules.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Whether it's a _good_ answer or not is for you and your code to decide :)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
-- &lt;br&gt;
Steve Lord&lt;br&gt;
slord@mathworks.com&lt;br&gt;
comp.soft-sys.matlab (CSSM) FAQ: &lt;a href=&quot;http://matlabwiki.mathworks.com/MATLAB_FAQ&quot;&gt;http://matlabwiki.mathworks.com/MATLAB_FAQ&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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