From: Claude <claude@mon.et>
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Subject: Re: Matlab 7.4 OSX
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calin wrote:
>
>
> I don't know anybody working on a Mac complaining about not having
> a
> "full experience". Most of the people I know using macs are doing
> so
> because they don't like the "wonderful experience" they got on
> windows machines (otherwise they would move to windows and have the
> full experience of marvels that the windows matlab version has to
> offer). As far as I am concerned, the loss of a X11 version for mac
> would eliminate the advantage of a mac: the mac offers ease of
> administration and the media type of programs one can find on
> windows
> combined with the possibility of compiling and running programs
> UNIX
> style (remotely, in the background, all that and more). I don't
> know
> what exactly people don't experience on the mac version of matlab,
> but let me tell you what I experienced on the windows version of
> it:
> trouble with C and Forstran compilers, trouble running in the
> background, trouble running a loop that calls stand alone C or
> Fortran executables (the workaround involving Cygwin and a lot of
> wasted time to get it work properly). Remembering my last
> experience
> with Matlab on Windows sends shivers down my spine, so if X11
> Matlab
> disappears on macs, I'll probably move to linux machines... But
> that's just me.

 
The problem is, people DO want different things. For you, remote
operation and compiling are important, and X11 seems to be a
necessity. I don't work remotely, I don't compile, but I spend my
days working in Simulink with huge models and the X11 version of
Simulink has an awful GUI that makes me nervous after 10 minutes
(even the delete key works differently in different Simulink windows.
For me, that's UNACCEPTABLE).
I ended up running Parallels on my Mac just for Simulink - i.e., a
program that is officially supported... If I had known of such
problems in advance, I wouldn't have bought a Mac.
Honestly, I think TMW should just find out how many Mac users would
prefer doing away with X11 for a more Mac-like, native interface or
keep X11 for Linux-style features at the expense of interface
coherence (and, for me, productivity). The minority will have to use
PCs, or virtualization, or bootcamp, whatever, to run Win or Linux;
the majority should have the right to fully enjoy using Matlab on
their macs.
Of course, in an ideal world, both groups would be satisfied at the
same time, but it doesn't look like that's a possibility...

Claude