Thread Subject: Stand alone editor (meditor)

I have Matlab R2007b and just found out that meditor is no
longer included. Why did they remove it? It's main advantage
was that you didn't have to open Matlab, which can take a
long time the first time you open it and it uses up a lot of
resources. You used to be able to just double click an
m-file and it would open up almost immediately.

Does anyone know if I can get meditor back?

Regards,
Peter

Hi,

the meditor is in win32

"...\MATLAB\R2007b\bin\win32\meditor.exe"


"Peter Bone" <peterbone@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<g4fead$p8v$1@fred.mathworks.com>...
> I have Matlab R2007b and just found out that meditor is no
> longer included. Why did they remove it? It's main advantage
> was that you didn't have to open Matlab, which can take a
> long time the first time you open it and it uses up a lot of
> resources. You used to be able to just double click an
> m-file and it would open up almost immediately.
>
> Does anyone know if I can get meditor back?
>
> Regards,
> Peter

Hello,

In release 2008b the editor is no longer in win32 (I knew to find it there before). I have an application that uses the "external" C interface; when that crashes (which it does a bunch), I don't want the editor closing, so I want to start it as an independent process (and it is not possible to open the "console" with external C calls and have another Matlab open at the same time, at least I can't).

Anybody has been able to find a way to run meditor on 2008b as standalone?

Thanks,

Alvar

"Neural " <neural@mailinator.com> wrote in message <g7i029$e42$1@fred.mathworks.com>...
> Hi,
>
> the meditor is in win32
>
> "...\MATLAB\R2007b\bin\win32\meditor.exe"
>
>
> "Peter Bone" <peterbone@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> <g4fead$p8v$1@fred.mathworks.com>...
> > I have Matlab R2007b and just found out that meditor is no
> > longer included. Why did they remove it? It's main advantage
> > was that you didn't have to open Matlab, which can take a
> > long time the first time you open it and it uses up a lot of
> > resources. You used to be able to just double click an
> > m-file and it would open up almost immediately.
> >
> > Does anyone know if I can get meditor back?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Peter
>

More than that: Sometimes Matlab itself crashes, freezes, or otherwise unresponsive so you simply have to kill the process from the Task Manager. In all these cases you immediately kill the editor with all your unsaved changes. Mostly for these reasons I have nearly always used the standalone one.

The only workaround I can think of is to use an meditor of your older version. That is what I will do before upgrading to newer versions.
It's really surprising to me, why MathWork removed it. I dont think it would cost them a penny to keep it..

Could anyone from MathWorks answer this, please?
Thanks.
 



"Alvar Saenz-Otero" <alvarso@mit.edu> wrote in message <geoos1$db$1@fred.mathworks.com>...
>
> Hello,
>
> In release 2008b the editor is no longer in win32 (I knew to find it there before). I have an application that uses the "external" C interface; when that crashes (which it does a bunch), I don't want the editor closing, so I want to start it as an independent process (and it is not possible to open the "console" with external C calls and have another Matlab open at the same time, at least I can't).
>
> Anybody has been able to find a way to run meditor on 2008b as standalone?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alvar
>
> "Neural " <neural@mailinator.com> wrote in message <g7i029$e42$1@fred.mathworks.com>...
> > Hi,
> >
> > the meditor is in win32
> >
> > "...\MATLAB\R2007b\bin\win32\meditor.exe"
> >
> >
> > "Peter Bone" <peterbone@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > <g4fead$p8v$1@fred.mathworks.com>...
> > > I have Matlab R2007b and just found out that meditor is no
> > > longer included. Why did they remove it? It's main advantage
> > > was that you didn't have to open Matlab, which can take a
> > > long time the first time you open it and it uses up a lot of
> > > resources. You used to be able to just double click an
> > > m-file and it would open up almost immediately.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if I can get meditor back?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Peter
> >

"Alex Koltunov" <sashakk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:grlr5j$8jk$1@fred.mathworks.com...
> More than that: Sometimes Matlab itself crashes, freezes, or otherwise
> unresponsive so you simply have to kill the process from the Task
> Manager. In all these cases you immediately kill the editor with all your
> unsaved changes. Mostly for these reasons I have nearly always used the
> standalone one.

If you have steps with which you can fairly consistently crash or hang
MATLAB, please send them in to Technical Support so we can investigate why
MATLAB is crashing or hanging and fix it.

Besides, if you're modified a function in the Editor and then run it without
saving, you're actually executing the older version of the function (without
your unsaved changes) so you should save before running your code.

> The only workaround I can think of is to use an meditor of your older
> version. That is what I will do before upgrading to newer versions.
> It's really surprising to me, why MathWork removed it. I dont think it
> would cost them a penny to keep it..
>
> Could anyone from MathWorks answer this, please?
> Thanks.

Take a look at this entry in the Release Notes:

http://www.mathworks.com/access/helpdesk/help/techdoc/rn/bq1zi27-1.html#bq4h5rd-1

If you still have questions or concerns about this, please contact Technical
Support, Customer Service, or your sales representative.

--
Steve Lord
slord@mathworks.com

"Peter Bone" <peterbone@hotmail.com> wrote in message <g4fead$p8v$1@fred.mathworks.com>...
> I have Matlab R2007b and just found out that meditor is no
> longer included. Why did they remove it? It's main advantage
> was that you didn't have to open Matlab, which can take a
> long time the first time you open it and it uses up a lot of
> resources. You used to be able to just double click an
> m-file and it would open up almost immediately.
>
> Does anyone know if I can get meditor back?
>
> Regards,
> Peter

use Komodo or jEdit

old PFE32 is still the best text editor around

Thank you Steven, for your response.
I will keep sending Matlab Crash reports when they happen.

       > Besides, if you're modified a function in the Editor and then run it without
       > saving, you're actually executing the older version of the function (without
       > your unsaved changes) so you should save before running your code.

Sure. However, I meant the situation when the Matlab process I've run does not use the code you are currently modifying. This is not really an exotic scenario, especially if my running Matlab executes a time-consuming and/or semi-interactive analysis step. You don't want to waste time and you would like to program other steps meanwhile... Without a standalone editor one has to always keep an extra Matlab process the only purpose of which is a mere viewing or editing m-files.

Since Matlab-4 I have been a really a big "fan" of Matlab, and I generally do like new features MathWorks introduces with newer versions. As for the removal of the standalone editor, I find this very inconvenient, and it may make many users stop using the meditor, which is actually a great editor...

Thanks again, Steven, for your quick response and suggestions.

-- Alex

"Steven Lord" <slord@mathworks.com> wrote in message <grnj1j$l3t$1@fred.mathworks.com>...
>
> "Alex Koltunov" <sashakk@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:grlr5j$8jk$1@fred.mathworks.com...
> > More than that: Sometimes Matlab itself crashes, freezes, or otherwise
> > unresponsive so you simply have to kill the process from the Task
> > Manager. In all these cases you immediately kill the editor with all your
> > unsaved changes. Mostly for these reasons I have nearly always used the
> > standalone one.
>
> If you have steps with which you can fairly consistently crash or hang
> MATLAB, please send them in to Technical Support so we can investigate why
> MATLAB is crashing or hanging and fix it.
>
> Besides, if you're modified a function in the Editor and then run it without
> saving, you're actually executing the older version of the function (without
> your unsaved changes) so you should save before running your code.
>
> > The only workaround I can think of is to use an meditor of your older
> > version. That is what I will do before upgrading to newer versions.
> > It's really surprising to me, why MathWork removed it. I dont think it
> > would cost them a penny to keep it..
> >
> > Could anyone from MathWorks answer this, please?
> > Thanks.
>
> Take a look at this entry in the Release Notes:
>
> http://www.mathworks.com/access/helpdesk/help/techdoc/rn/bq1zi27-1.html#bq4h5rd-1
>
> If you still have questions or concerns about this, please contact Technical
> Support, Customer Service, or your sales representative.
>
> --
> Steve Lord
> slord@mathworks.com
>

"Peter Bone" <peterbone@hotmail.com> wrote in message <g4fead$p8v$1@fred.mathworks.com>...
> I have Matlab R2007b and just found out that meditor is no
> longer included. Why did they remove it? It's main advantage
> was that you didn't have to open Matlab, which can take a
> long time the first time you open it and it uses up a lot of
> resources. You used to be able to just double click an
> m-file and it would open up almost immediately.
>
> Does anyone know if I can get meditor back?
>
> Regards,
> Peter

I now use Crimson Editor as a standalone Matlab editor since it supports Matlab syntax highlighting. It uses up much less resources than Matlab and opens quicker, so it's useful when you just want to browse code.