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Apple Deprecates Java Runtime

Subject: Apple Deprecates Java Runtime

From: Ken Prager

Date: 22 Oct, 2010 15:08:09

Message: 1 of 4

First mentioned here:

<http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/Java/JavaSnowLeopar
dUpdate3LeopardUpdate8RN/NewandNoteworthy/NewandNoteworthy.html%23//apple
_ref/doc/uid/TP40010380-CH4-SW1>

Interesting discussion here:

<http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1814613>

I read a comment from another source that Sun should have been
responsible for the runtime all along, rather than relying on Apple to
do the work. Now it is time for "Oracle/Sun to step up and take care of
Java developers on the Mac."

TMW: Can you provide a comment on your plans for the Mac platform in
light of this news?


Ken P.

Subject: Apple Deprecates Java Runtime

From: Brian Arnold

Date: 25 Oct, 2010 14:50:46

Message: 2 of 4

Hi Ken,

We are aware of this, and we are communicating with Apple and Oracle for
a clarification of what this means, but there are no changes to our
current plans for the Mac platform at this time.

- Brian

Ken Prager wrote:
> First mentioned here:
>
> <http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/Java/JavaSnowLeopar
> dUpdate3LeopardUpdate8RN/NewandNoteworthy/NewandNoteworthy.html%23//apple
> _ref/doc/uid/TP40010380-CH4-SW1>
>
> Interesting discussion here:
>
> <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1814613>
>
> I read a comment from another source that Sun should have been
> responsible for the runtime all along, rather than relying on Apple to
> do the work. Now it is time for "Oracle/Sun to step up and take care of
> Java developers on the Mac."
>
> TMW: Can you provide a comment on your plans for the Mac platform in
> light of this news?
>
>
> Ken P.

Subject: Apple Deprecates Java Runtime

From: Mike Thomas

Date: 25 Oct, 2010 15:35:04

Message: 3 of 4

Ken Prager <prager@ieee.org> wrote in message <e08cc$4cc1a8c1$423c830e$18284@EVERESTKC.NET>...
> First mentioned here:
>
> <http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/Java/JavaSnowLeopar
> dUpdate3LeopardUpdate8RN/NewandNoteworthy/NewandNoteworthy.html%23//apple
> _ref/doc/uid/TP40010380-CH4-SW1>
>
> Interesting discussion here:
>
> <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1814613>
>
> I read a comment from another source that Sun should have been
> responsible for the runtime all along, rather than relying on Apple to
> do the work. Now it is time for "Oracle/Sun to step up and take care of
> Java developers on the Mac."
>
> TMW: Can you provide a comment on your plans for the Mac platform in
> light of this news?
>
>
> Ken P.

-------------

Wow, that is disappointing!

Mike Thomas
http://www.LiquidNitrogenOverclocking.com

Subject: Apple Deprecates Java Runtime

From: Ken Prager

Date: 25 Oct, 2010 20:57:50

Message: 4 of 4

Thanks for the response Brian.

This post by former Apple SW Engineer Matt Drance provides an
interesting perspective:

<http://www.appleoutsider.com/2010/10/22/java/>

Key quote:

> The sad part is that there are a lot of passionate third-party developers who
> worked very hard over the years to deliver a first-class Mac experience with
> Java. They will have to rethink their priorities and either focus on other
> platforms, or think about a Cocoa port (which, on the Mac, includes not just
> Objective-C, but Python and Ruby as well).

I would put TMW in that group.

Regards,

Ken P.



In article <4CC59946.30809@mathworks.com>,
 Brian Arnold <Brian.Arnold@mathworks.com> wrote:

> Hi Ken,
>
> We are aware of this, and we are communicating with Apple and Oracle for
> a clarification of what this means, but there are no changes to our
> current plans for the Mac platform at this time.
>
> - Brian
>
> Ken Prager wrote:
> > First mentioned here:
> >
> > <http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/Java/JavaSnowLeopar
> > dUpdate3LeopardUpdate8RN/NewandNoteworthy/NewandNoteworthy.html%23//apple
> > _ref/doc/uid/TP40010380-CH4-SW1>
> >
> > Interesting discussion here:
> >
> > <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1814613>
> >
> > I read a comment from another source that Sun should have been
> > responsible for the runtime all along, rather than relying on Apple to
> > do the work. Now it is time for "Oracle/Sun to step up and take care of
> > Java developers on the Mac."
> >
> > TMW: Can you provide a comment on your plans for the Mac platform in
> > light of this news?
> >
> >
> > Ken P.

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