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Looking for help

Subject: Looking for help

From: Jae

Date: 12 Apr, 2011 04:11:21

Message: 1 of 14

Where do I go for help? I need help? I need someones help? I cant understand how when I ask for help no one helps me but everyone else is helped. I created a topic asking for help and no one helped me. Why is it so difficult to find help. PLEASE! PLEASE! HELP ME

Subject: Looking for help

From: TideMan

Date: 12 Apr, 2011 04:39:38

Message: 2 of 14

On Apr 12, 4:11 pm, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Where do I go for help? I need help? I need someones help? I cant understand how when I ask for help no one helps me but everyone else is helped. I created a topic asking for help and no one helped me. Why is it so difficult to find help. PLEASE! PLEASE! HELP ME

Well, I can find no record of you asking for help under the name Jae.

But there are lots of reasons why nobody responds to posts:
1. The question is too vague.
2. The question is outside one's expertise.
3. The question involves a lot of time and effort to answer.
4. The person asking for help is rude.
5. The subject line is silly. e.g. I need help
etc
etc

Subject: Looking for help

From: Jae

Date: 12 Apr, 2011 04:59:05

Message: 3 of 14

TideMan <mulgor@gmail.com> wrote in message <4ce3235d-2da4-4124-a63d-f41cda451622@u12g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>...
> On Apr 12, 4:11 pm, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Where do I go for help? I need help? I need someones help? I cant understand how when I ask for help no one helps me but everyone else is helped. I created a topic asking for help and no one helped me. Why is it so difficult to find help. PLEASE! PLEASE! HELP ME
>
> Well, I can find no record of you asking for help under the name Jae.
>
> But there are lots of reasons why nobody responds to posts:
> 1. The question is too vague.
> 2. The question is outside one's expertise.
> 3. The question involves a lot of time and effort to answer.
> 4. The person asking for help is rude.
> 5. The subject line is silly. e.g. I need help
> etc
> etc

My earlier topic asking for help is the link below. Check the link below

http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/306018

Subject: Looking for help

From: TideMan

Date: 12 Apr, 2011 05:22:38

Message: 4 of 14

On Apr 12, 4:59 pm, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> TideMan <mul...@gmail.com> wrote in message <4ce3235d-2da4-4124-a63d-f41cda451...@u12g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>...
> > On Apr 12, 4:11 pm, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Where do I go for help? I need help? I need someones help? I cant understand how when I ask for help no one helps me but everyone else is helped. I created a topic asking for help and no one helped me. Why is it so difficult to find help. PLEASE! PLEASE! HELP ME
>
> > Well, I can find no record of you asking for help under the name Jae.
>
> > But there are lots of reasons why nobody responds to posts:
> > 1.  The question is too vague.
> > 2.  The question is outside one's expertise.
> > 3.  The question involves a lot of time and effort to answer.
> > 4.  The person asking for help is rude.
> > 5.  The subject line is silly.  e.g. I need help
> > etc
> > etc
>
> My earlier topic asking for help is the link below. Check the link below
>
> http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/306018

You're unlikely to get help from this forum for a program that has
been written by a research group, unless you happen to luck on someone
who knows the program (I don't).
And using the title that you did: "Need help running a matlab code",
makes it even more unlikely.
Everybody who posts here wants help running Matlab code, so most
people ignore silly titles like that, myself included.
You need to think of a title that briefly describes the program you're
having trouble with so that someone who knows that program may read
your post out of interest.

But your best bet is to go to the research group who wrote the program
and ask them your question.

Subject: Looking for help

From: Jae

Date: 12 Apr, 2011 05:48:04

Message: 5 of 14

TideMan <mulgor@gmail.com> wrote in message <5d8a8c93-c39a-4cf4-a9f2-b3d9c9e1c5d9@w6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com>...
> On Apr 12, 4:59 pm, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > TideMan <mul...@gmail.com> wrote in message <4ce3235d-2da4-4124-a63d-f41cda451...@u12g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>...
> > > On Apr 12, 4:11 pm, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Where do I go for help? I need help? I need someones help? I cant understand how when I ask for help no one helps me but everyone else is helped. I created a topic asking for help and no one helped me. Why is it so difficult to find help. PLEASE! PLEASE! HELP ME
> >
> > > Well, I can find no record of you asking for help under the name Jae.
> >
> > > But there are lots of reasons why nobody responds to posts:
> > > 1.  The question is too vague.
> > > 2.  The question is outside one's expertise.
> > > 3.  The question involves a lot of time and effort to answer.
> > > 4.  The person asking for help is rude.
> > > 5.  The subject line is silly.  e.g. I need help
> > > etc
> > > etc
> >
> > My earlier topic asking for help is the link below. Check the link below
> >
> > http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/306018
>
> You're unlikely to get help from this forum for a program that has
> been written by a research group, unless you happen to luck on someone
> who knows the program (I don't).
> And using the title that you did: "Need help running a matlab code",
> makes it even more unlikely.
> Everybody who posts here wants help running Matlab code, so most
> people ignore silly titles like that, myself included.
> You need to think of a title that briefly describes the program you're
> having trouble with so that someone who knows that program may read
> your post out of interest.
>
> But your best bet is to go to the research group who wrote the program
> and ask them your question.

The program runs but I dont think its running correctly. Its giving me errors. Where can one go for help on this. Would it be possible for you to take a look at the program and try to see what the problem is?

Subject: Looking for help

From: TideMan

Date: 12 Apr, 2011 07:25:27

Message: 6 of 14

On Apr 12, 5:48 pm, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> TideMan <mul...@gmail.com> wrote in message <5d8a8c93-c39a-4cf4-a9f2-b3d9c9e1c...@w6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com>...
> > On Apr 12, 4:59 pm, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > TideMan <mul...@gmail.com> wrote in message <4ce3235d-2da4-4124-a63d-f41cda451...@u12g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>...
> > > > On Apr 12, 4:11 pm, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Where do I go for help? I need help? I need someones help? I cant understand how when I ask for help no one helps me but everyone else is helped. I created a topic asking for help and no one helped me. Why is it so difficult to find help. PLEASE! PLEASE! HELP ME
>
> > > > Well, I can find no record of you asking for help under the name Jae.
>
> > > > But there are lots of reasons why nobody responds to posts:
> > > > 1.  The question is too vague.
> > > > 2.  The question is outside one's expertise.
> > > > 3.  The question involves a lot of time and effort to answer.
> > > > 4.  The person asking for help is rude.
> > > > 5.  The subject line is silly.  e.g. I need help
> > > > etc
> > > > etc
>
> > > My earlier topic asking for help is the link below. Check the link below
>
> > >http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/306018
>
> > You're unlikely to get help from this forum for a program that has
> > been written by a research group, unless you happen to luck on someone
> > who knows the program (I don't).
> > And using the title that you did: "Need help running a matlab code",
> > makes it even more unlikely.
> > Everybody who posts here wants help running Matlab code, so most
> > people ignore silly titles like that, myself included.
> > You need to think of a title that briefly describes the program you're
> > having trouble with so that someone who knows that program may read
> > your post out of interest.
>
> > But your best bet is to go to the research group who wrote the program
> > and ask them your question.
>
> The program runs but I dont think its running correctly. Its giving me errors. Where can one go for help on this. Would it be possible for you to take a look at the program and try to see what the problem is?

Nah.
I'm a selfish bugger.
I have a lot more interesting things to do than to plough through your
turgid code.

Why don't you ask your professor? He gets paid to spoon feed people
like you, I don't.

Subject: Looking for help

From: Jae

Date: 12 Apr, 2011 14:33:22

Message: 7 of 14

TideMan <mulgor@gmail.com> wrote in message <90e68f19-8f81-4921-b07a-1b6f554b5123@z37g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>...
> On Apr 12, 5:48 pm, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > TideMan <mul...@gmail.com> wrote in message <5d8a8c93-c39a-4cf4-a9f2-b3d9c9e1c...@w6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com>...
> > > On Apr 12, 4:59 pm, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > TideMan <mul...@gmail.com> wrote in message <4ce3235d-2da4-4124-a63d-f41cda451...@u12g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>...
> > > > > On Apr 12, 4:11 pm, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Where do I go for help? I need help? I need someones help? I cant understand how when I ask for help no one helps me but everyone else is helped. I created a topic asking for help and no one helped me. Why is it so difficult to find help. PLEASE! PLEASE! HELP ME
> >
> > > > > Well, I can find no record of you asking for help under the name Jae.
> >
> > > > > But there are lots of reasons why nobody responds to posts:
> > > > > 1.  The question is too vague.
> > > > > 2.  The question is outside one's expertise.
> > > > > 3.  The question involves a lot of time and effort to answer.
> > > > > 4.  The person asking for help is rude.
> > > > > 5.  The subject line is silly.  e.g. I need help
> > > > > etc
> > > > > etc
> >
> > > > My earlier topic asking for help is the link below. Check the link below
> >
> > > >http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/306018
> >
> > > You're unlikely to get help from this forum for a program that has
> > > been written by a research group, unless you happen to luck on someone
> > > who knows the program (I don't).
> > > And using the title that you did: "Need help running a matlab code",
> > > makes it even more unlikely.
> > > Everybody who posts here wants help running Matlab code, so most
> > > people ignore silly titles like that, myself included.
> > > You need to think of a title that briefly describes the program you're
> > > having trouble with so that someone who knows that program may read
> > > your post out of interest.
> >
> > > But your best bet is to go to the research group who wrote the program
> > > and ask them your question.
> >
> > The program runs but I dont think its running correctly. Its giving me errors. Where can one go for help on this. Would it be possible for you to take a look at the program and try to see what the problem is?
>
> Nah.
> I'm a selfish bugger.
> I have a lot more interesting things to do than to plough through your
> turgid code.
>
> Why don't you ask your professor? He gets paid to spoon feed people
> like you, I don't.

Ohh wow. Really? It makes me feel good to know that I get back at someone. I hope that when its your turn to ask for help and you get the same response. I hope to god that your negative response is twice as harsh.

Subject: Looking for help

From: Steven_Lord

Date: 12 Apr, 2011 15:36:57

Message: 8 of 14



"Jae " <pppeeeppee@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:io0p2k$fnk$1@fred.mathworks.com...

*snip*

> The program runs but I dont think its running correctly. Its giving me
> errors. Where can one go for help on this. Would it be possible for you to
> take a look at the program and try to see what the problem is?

Rather than asking someone to volunteer to spend a significant amount of
time reading and understanding what is likely to be some highly technical
code, why don't you contact the original authors at the address they
provided at the bottom of the page to which you linked in your original
message?

http://mtg.upf.edu/static/mass/software/index.htm

They should be familiar with the code and are more likely to know the cause
of the errors you received than people here who would need to learn the code
first.

--
Steve Lord
slord@mathworks.com
To contact Technical Support use the Contact Us link on
http://www.mathworks.com

Subject: Looking for help

From: Jae

Date: 12 Apr, 2011 17:01:04

Message: 9 of 14

"Steven_Lord" <slord@mathworks.com> wrote in message <io1rih$359$1@fred.mathworks.com>...
>
>
> "Jae " <pppeeeppee@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:io0p2k$fnk$1@fred.mathworks.com...
>
> *snip*
>
> > The program runs but I dont think its running correctly. Its giving me
> > errors. Where can one go for help on this. Would it be possible for you to
> > take a look at the program and try to see what the problem is?
>
> Rather than asking someone to volunteer to spend a significant amount of
> time reading and understanding what is likely to be some highly technical
> code, why don't you contact the original authors at the address they
> provided at the bottom of the page to which you linked in your original
> message?
>
> http://mtg.upf.edu/static/mass/software/index.htm
>
> They should be familiar with the code and are more likely to know the cause
> of the errors you received than people here who would need to learn the code
> first.
>
> --
> Steve Lord
> slord@mathworks.com
> To contact Technical Support use the Contact Us link on
> http://www.mathworks.com

Tried this haven't got a response from them

Subject: Looking for help

From: Jae

Date: 13 Apr, 2011 03:03:05

Message: 10 of 14


I tried this. No response.

Subject: Looking for help

From: TideMan

Date: 13 Apr, 2011 08:21:20

Message: 11 of 14

On Apr 13, 2:33 am, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> TideMan <mul...@gmail.com> wrote in message <90e68f19-8f81-4921-b07a-1b6f554b5...@z37g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>...
> > On Apr 12, 5:48 pm, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > TideMan <mul...@gmail.com> wrote in message <5d8a8c93-c39a-4cf4-a9f2-b3d9c9e1c...@w6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com>...
> > > > On Apr 12, 4:59 pm, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > TideMan <mul...@gmail.com> wrote in message <4ce3235d-2da4-4124-a63d-f41cda451...@u12g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>...
> > > > > > On Apr 12, 4:11 pm, "Jae " <pppeeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Where do I go for help? I need help? I need someones help? I cant understand how when I ask for help no one helps me but everyone else is helped. I created a topic asking for help and no one helped me. Why is it so difficult to find help. PLEASE! PLEASE! HELP ME
>
> > > > > > Well, I can find no record of you asking for help under the name Jae.
>
> > > > > > But there are lots of reasons why nobody responds to posts:
> > > > > > 1.  The question is too vague.
> > > > > > 2.  The question is outside one's expertise.
> > > > > > 3.  The question involves a lot of time and effort to answer.
> > > > > > 4.  The person asking for help is rude.
> > > > > > 5.  The subject line is silly.  e.g. I need help
> > > > > > etc
> > > > > > etc
>
> > > > > My earlier topic asking for help is the link below. Check the link below
>
> > > > >http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/306018
>
> > > > You're unlikely to get help from this forum for a program that has
> > > > been written by a research group, unless you happen to luck on someone
> > > > who knows the program (I don't).
> > > > And using the title that you did: "Need help running a matlab code",
> > > > makes it even more unlikely.
> > > > Everybody who posts here wants help running Matlab code, so most
> > > > people ignore silly titles like that, myself included.
> > > > You need to think of a title that briefly describes the program you're
> > > > having trouble with so that someone who knows that program may read
> > > > your post out of interest.
>
> > > > But your best bet is to go to the research group who wrote the program
> > > > and ask them your question.
>
> > > The program runs but I dont think its running correctly. Its giving me errors. Where can one go for help on this. Would it be possible for you to take a look at the program and try to see what the problem is?
>
> > Nah.
> > I'm a selfish bugger.
> > I have a lot more interesting things to do than to plough through your
> > turgid code.
>
> > Why don't you ask your professor?  He gets paid to spoon feed people
> > like you, I don't.
>
> Ohh wow. Really? It makes me feel good to know that I get back at someone. I hope that when its your turn to ask for help and you get the same response. I hope to god that your negative response is twice as harsh.

OK, I've changed my mind.
I'll help you, but I must charge you my consultancy rates of US$1,600
per day.
I estimate the work will entail a couple of days of my time to get you
up and running correctly, so that will be US$3,200.
If you decide to proceed, please let me know so that I can send you my
bank account number.
I require payment in advance.
I will start the work when your deposit comes into my account.

Subject: Looking for help

From: Jae

Date: 13 Apr, 2011 15:40:21

Message: 12 of 14

hmm! I don't any programmers that work $1600 a day and if they did they wouldn't be reading these message boards. You want to hear something that's funny I do have this kind of money but there is no way in hell I would pay for a service that hasn't been done. Meaning if you really think I would pay you in advance for something you haven't done for me you must be sippin on toxic juice. Here is my proposal, fix the problem and if all well is good and I am satisfied I will pay you exactly that amount. I'm a man of my word

Subject: Looking for help

From: Jae

Date: 13 Apr, 2011 19:15:05

Message: 13 of 14

If someone askes for help you should just help them. Thats all I ask for is help

Subject: Looking for help

From: Steven_Lord

Date: 13 Apr, 2011 19:56:05

Message: 14 of 14



"Jae " <pppeeeppee@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:io4snp$eqq$1@fred.mathworks.com...
> If someone askes for help you should just help them. Thats all I ask for
> is help

If someone says "I'm getting this error message on this line of code, can
you help me eliminate it?" that's one thing, and you'll likely see people
answering those types of questions frequently.

If someone says "Can you read through this extremely technical code base and
explain it to me?" that's quite another.



Rereading your original message, are you objecting to the use of the word
"error" in the message:

"Error approximating the spectrogram (synthesis as in [1]): 177935.0959
Error approximating the spectrogram (synthesis as in [2]) (optimal):
171449.8023"

If so, in context "Error" does NOT mean that the program didn't work. It
means the different between the "right" answer (the word right is in quotes
deliberately) and the answer the program computed.

If you are objecting to the values that were displayed in that message, that
would require analysis of the technical details of the research group's code
and that would likely be a significant undertaking. This is the "quite
another" case I mentioned above. In this case, YOU need to perform the
analysis of the code and if you encounter a SPECIFIC line that you believe
is incorrect or that you don't understand, THAT is the type of question with
which the group may be able to help you. Or you can pay TideMan's consulting
fee in order to hire him to perform that detailed analysis and answer the
question for you; at that point, the situation is no longer "Can you
volunteer your time to explain this to me?" but "We have a contract; you
explain this to me and I'll pay you."

--
Steve Lord
slord@mathworks.com
To contact Technical Support use the Contact Us link on
http://www.mathworks.com

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