How to use "simulink.signal" type data as numerical values in real time in an app created with App Designer.

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I use desktop real-time to do real time control in Simulink, and I'm trying to monitor that information in my app.
I want to use a signal line or block state as numerical values in real time in an app created with App Designer.
I don't know;
(1) how to get "simulink.signal" type data into appdesigner
(2) how to change "simulink.signal" data type to other data type

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