How to measure Torque and RPM of a DC Engine at the same time in Simulink/Simscape

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Hey,
I'm operating a DC Engine, which drives a car. I works fine, but I need to know both Torque and RPM of the engine. Using an "Ideal Rotational Motion Sensor" OR an "Ideal Torque Sensor" the results are fine. But when I'm using both sensors at the same time, only one of them is working (Torque).
Does someone have a hint how so solve my Problem?
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彬 魏
彬 魏 on 20 Sep 2021
The torque on both sides of the gear is measured simultaneously in simscape, and the result of the torque sensor is faulty

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Franck Donnadieu
Franck Donnadieu on 27 Dec 2017
Good evening, I reproduced your model by adding a resistance. Try to separate scopes also. The overview of the results depends on the scale which is adapted to the biggest value (it is possible that on this scale the other value is not visible without making a zoom). ;)
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彬 魏
彬 魏 on 20 Sep 2021
The torque on both sides of the gear is measured simultaneously in simscape, and the result of the torque sensor is faulty

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Cyril CRIER
Cyril CRIER on 25 Aug 2020
Hello all, I have the same issue!
I tried the solution of Franck Donnadieu (put a Rotational Friction Block in "Serie" to the R port of the DC motor block), which give me that:
instead of that (basic DC Motor block coming from the command "ssc_dcmotor"):
But I'm still getting this Error message:
I've inserted a simplified model to the post.
Anybody know the trick?
Thanks
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Cyril CRIER
Cyril CRIER on 25 Aug 2020
Really?! what a d**b mistake from my side... I guess I just did a copy/paste.
Thank you very much. This error message disappeared I just have to analyse the outcomes now ;-).

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Vincent Riboulet
Vincent Riboulet on 1 Dec 2020
Hello,
The torque sensor should be put in line, exactly like an intensity sensor in the electrical world.

Dimitrios Tzerakis
Dimitrios Tzerakis on 13 Feb 2021
Edited: Dimitrios Tzerakis on 13 Feb 2021
In my model I used a BLDC, but the ports are essentially the same.
You connect the R port of the BLDC to both the R ports of the rotary and torque sensors.
The C port of the Rotational Motion sensor is to be connected to ground (so that its "parallel" to the motor)
However, as @Vincent Riboulet said, the torque sensor needs to be in series with something. To its C port, you can add an inertia, but I even tried a blank torque source (commented out things) and it worked fine.
I tried @Franck Donnadieu's answer, but the rotational friction kept influencing the output of the torque sensor, so I dont reccommend it. (Idk if its because im using R2020a, but think its worth noting).
I hope you can see the picture of my diagram:
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彬 魏
彬 魏 on 20 Sep 2021
The torque on both sides of the gear is measured simultaneously in simscape, and the result of the torque sensor is faulty

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彬 魏
彬 魏 on 20 Sep 2021

彬 魏
彬 魏 on 20 Sep 2021
The torque on both sides of the gear is measured simultaneously in simscape, and the result of the torque sensor is faulty

彬 魏
彬 魏 on 20 Sep 2021
The torque on both sides of the gear is measured simultaneously in simscape, and the result of the torque sensor is faulty

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